How They Made It

Sometimes indie creators really do hit it big. Hear how some of your favorite independent podcasters and video creators got their start—and the turning point that changed everything.

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The Dumb Zone on the tricky transition from radio to podcasting
Dan McDowell and Jake Kemp's move from radio to podcasting came with contract disputes, a lawsuit, and the challenge of rebuilding their once massive audience.
Answer in Progress on how their creative outlet made it big
The creators of Answer in Progress were just high school students when they launched their YouTube channel. Nearly a decade later, they've become a well-oiled machine. Here's how they did it.
Ross Sutherland of Imaginary Advice on podcasting's parallels with poetry
We spoke with Ross about how poetry led him to podcasting, how budget constraints led to his signature style, and why pursuing your passion as a full-time job may not be your best option.
James Kim of Moonface on the importance of artistry
James Kim makes exciting, genre-bending shows that have been praised by critics. We talked to him about dealing with imposter syndrome and what he learned from teaching himself to write fiction.
Drifting Off With Joe Pera on why staying indie is best for the audience
We spoke with the team behind Drifting Off... about their love for Descript, the intimacy of podcasts, and getting energy from the work.
Mark Pagán of Other Men Need Help on making a beloved podcast with a day job
We talked to Mark about learning how to watch an audience, balancing a day job with a passion project, and making the thing you want to make, even if it doesn’t make any money. 
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